SPOILERS!

[simplyn2deep]

of a pretty big kind too! For episode 3.01

So there's this

And I don't know if I'm going to like Doris much, but it's also reminding me about this review posted in the Examiner. Specifically the part this part:

Thrusting her in the middle of the McGarrett/Danno (Scott Caan) partnership shines a light on elements and eccentricities they each have let slide about the other, but because she is a fresh pair of eyes, and a straight-shooter at that, she calls attention to them immediately, forcing them to consider deeper than typical macho dudes might want to.

Doris trying to come off as everyone's mother. I don't know how well that's going to go over.

holy crap! while that's sort funny, I had this odd sense of deja vu and Lori prying into Danny's life as a "profiler".

She's been in hiding for 20 years. Times have changed and Danny isn't her son and she has no right prying into his personal life. Hell she probably doesn't have a right prying into Steve and Mary's lives anymore after what she did to "protect" her family.

Comments

[t-verano.livejournal.com]

Wow. Is it bad that I actually kinda love that I really dislike Doris a LOT there? It's... wow. That after what she did, she would have the balls to be that pushy and jerkface with Danny -- boy, I really like that. Not that I'm liking her, but I find it really good that I'm disliking her so much. Plus, it makes me think of some aspects of Steve's personality; he can be pushy and no respecter of boundaries. (I just don't find him OBNOXIOUS like I'm finding Doris here.)

Plus, if Doris is being this way with Danny because she thinks he and Steve are too close and is "defending" her son -- oh God, I love that. Even if I would hate it for reals, I love it as a character thing here, because it says so much about her. I'm suddenly way more optimistic about Doris than I was before I saw this; at least TPTB aren't making her all Forgiveable and all Perfect / Likeable.

The crappy thing there to me is that Steve apparently didn't hear that conversation between Doris and Danny because he was on the phone. I WISH HE WOULD HAVE HEARD EVERY WORD OF THAT. (Of course he would've interrupted long before the "Danno" from Doris, I think -- I kept wondering why he wasn't, until I found out he was on the phone.)

Man, this is one of my favorite spoilers EVER. Thank you!!!!!

[t-verano.livejournal.com]

Plus, I loved Danny's response to her, too, I forgot to say that.

I LOVE THIS.

[simplyn2deep.livejournal.com]

I kind of figured Steve was on the phone because he simply wasn't saying anything when Doris was talking to Danny like that, then I heard his voice talking so I was like, what? then he got mad about Delano and tossed his phone down confirmed that.

Danny's response was good too.

[the-other-sandy.livejournal.com]

But when Steve gets all pushy and fails to respect boundaries, it's usually because he cares. Doris was just being judgmental.

[t-verano.livejournal.com]

I agree totally! I don't mind pushy Steve (I like pushy Steve, and his pushiness always seems more caring to me, yes) -- but Doris's motives suck, plus like you say below, GLASS HOUSES. I just am really enjoying the fact that TPTB are making her character very visibly less than perfect. I guess because I don't want to like her as a character, and this fits right into that. :-))

[t-verano.livejournal.com]

I meant to say also that I think maybe Doris is jealous of Danny, who's so much closer to Steve than she is and knows him so much better. Not that that's any kind of excuse for her to grill Danny, and be so obnoxious with it.

Please excuse me for babbling -- I just get sort of excited about the whole screwed-up, messy character dynamics possible here. *sheepish grin*

[the-other-sandy.livejournal.com]

I was definitely getting a 'parent grilling child's prom date' vibe from Doris in that scene.

[simplyn2deep.livejournal.com]

yeah

I took offense to the phrase she used. That's so 1950s or something. There have got to be plenty of women with children who don't want to get re-married.

Oh and I bet she'd like Rachel more for "doing whatever it takes" to protect her child(ren).

[t-verano.livejournal.com]

Yeah, Doris did a truly outstanding job of being offensive there on all fronts.

(Heh, my brain hurts thinking about her and Rachel.)

[simplyn2deep.livejournal.com]

I'm guessing by the time the show comes back, Danny and Gabby will have been dating for close to a year. I would be surprised if he proposed to her and talked about moving in together any time soon. I don't think there's anything wrong with moving slow. Better than having a revolving door of women meeting your young impressionable daughter...and that getting back to your wife who threatens to take custody away at the drop of a hat.

[t-verano.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I would think -- especially after his second "attempt" with Rachel -- that Danny would be very, very cautious, and I think that's very wise of him. (Plus, as you say, he sure doesn't need to hand Rachel anything that she could use as Daniel's Not A Good Influence ammunition.)